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''Managed by [[User:Rumble|Rumble]], Seven and [http://www.flyvision.org/the_eye/ The Eye]<br />
==[[D25_Camp|D25]]==
''Puddle discussion''<nowiki>: </nowiki>[http://puddle.disorient.info/viewforum.php?f=3 Music and Events]<br />
Lead: <I>JP</I><BR>
<br />
We accept sound equipment donations.<br />
<br />
==Sound Systems==


===L.A. Sound===
In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75], 4x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD], 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]and 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/ Mackie SRS1500] (available now: 3/3) (24x17x24 = 5.67 total= 17.01)<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA] will be repaired.<BR>
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1521/ Mackie SA1521] (available now: 2/2) (18x17x32 = 5.67 total= 11.34)<br />
* [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/ProDJ/Mixers/DJM-500 Pioneer DJM500 Mixer] (available now: 1/1)<br />


===MACKIE (amplified speakers)===
==D24==
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/ Mackie SRM450] (available now: 4/4) (15x15x26 = 3.39 total= 13.56)<br />
Lead: <I>Dmad</I><BR>
[[Image:Disorient_sound.jpg|200px]]<br /><BR>
===18" subs to be repaired for D25===
Those have not been working for at least 2 years<BR>


===CREST/EAW===
<gallery widths=380 heights=260 mode="packed-hover">
* [http://www.crestaudio.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/116225/number/CFA-CA9-AB/cat/319/CA+Series.cfm Crest Audio CA9] (power amps) (available now: 3/3) (23x22x24 = 7)<br />
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
* [http://www.eaw.com/documents/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/MKe_series/MK5194e/MK5194_polar.pdf EAW MK5194] (500W speakers) (available now: 4/5) (20x16x30 = 5.56 total= 27.8)<br />
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg
total cubic feet for MACKIE and CREST/EAW systems = 77<br /><BR><BR>
</gallery>


===CROWN CE series===
===20240710 Operation Deep Housecall===
* [http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/125645.pdf Crown CE1000] (power amp) (available now: 1/1)<BR>
<I>James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman</I>.<BR>
* [http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/127393.pdf Crown CE4000] (power amp) (available now: 1/1)<BR><BR>
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822<BR>
Goals:<BR>
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.<BR>
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.<BR>


<!--===CROWN/CUSTOM===
Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:<BR>
Touring rig originally designed by [http://www.clair-audio.com/ Clair Brothers Systems]<BR>
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing<BR>


[[Image:Bigsoundwideshot.jpg|800px]]
[[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg|370px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg|800px]]<BR>


====Racks====
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75]<BR>
[[Image:IMG_7258.JPG|200px]] [[Image:Crown_macrotech_back.jpg|100px]]<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD]<BR>
* 3 Racks - 20U, 16&quot; deep.  20&frac12;&quot; internal rack width, including ventilation clearance. 3&frac12;&quot; casters. 22&frac12;&quot; W x 44&frac12;&quot; H x 27&quot; D - ~15.65 cu. ft. each
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]<BR>
* [http://www.xta.uk.com/dp226_features.htm XTA Electronics DP-226 Loudspeaker Management] (crossover) (available now: 2/2)
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]<BR>
* [http://www.xta.uk.com/dp324_features.htm XTA Electronics DP-324 Dynamic Processor] (available now: 1/1)
* [http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/130252.pdf Crown Macro Tech 1200] (amps) (available now: 20/20) <br />


===="Frogs"====
4-way speakers (available now: 8/8) (45"h x 30"w x 18.5"d ~= 14.5 cu. ft.)
* Low - [http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/2240gh.pdf JBL 2240H] (30 Hz - 2 kHz)
* 2x Low-Mid (in parallel) - [http://www.jblpro.com/pub/components/eseries.pdf JBL E120-8] (50 Hz - 6 kHz)
* Hi-Mid horn JBL 2385 / [http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2385a.pdf 2385A] (500 Hz - 16 kHz)
* 2x Tweeter (in series) - ?
<br />
The enclosure has two Speakon NL8 8-pole panel connectors for daisy-chaining them. Each pair drives each of the components. Pair #1 is connected the low driver, 2 - Low-Mid (in parallel) , 3 - Hi-Mid, and 4 to the tweeter pair (in parallel)


Two Frogs have dead 18&quot; woofers - <span style="color:yellow;">replaced</span><br />
[[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg|800px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg|350px]]
One 12&quot; Lo-Mid's diaphragm is cracked - <span style="color:yellow;">replaced</span>.


====Subs====
[[Image:GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png|500px]]<BR>
(available now: 8/16) (35.5"h x 25.5"w x 24"d ~= 12.6 cu.ft)<br />
* [http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2241.pdf JBL 2241H]
* [http://www.eminence.com/proaudio_speaker_detail.asp?web_detail_link=OMEGAPRO-18A&speaker_size=18&SUB_CAT_ID=1 Eminence OMEGA PRO-18A]
The cabinet has two Speakon NL8 8-pole panel connectors for daisy-chaining them. The subs are organized in four groups on the speaker signal NL8 bus; the subs in each group are connected to only one of the 4 pairs. Four amps can power the four groups of subs by using one NL8 Speakon cable daisy-chain - each amp will be connected to one of the pairs.


====Cables====
==D23==
[[Media:SoundSystem_cabling_diagram_v.1.1.pdf|Cabling diagram]]
Lead: <I>Charlie Funk</I><BR>
=====Patch cables=====
Sound system at D23 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
* 2 x 5 XLRf-XLRm from XTA crossovers to amp channels (5-way on each side)
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
* 2 x 7 TRS-XLRm to daisy-chain amps (4 for a second set of Frog amps, and 3 for a total of 4 sub amps on each side)
D23Sound.1.jpg
=====NL8 Speakon cables=====
D23Sound.2.jpg
These whirlwind cables are 0.590&quot; thick and carry 8 13GA conductors. [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/audio02.html look for model W13/8 here], or  MULTILINE SPEAKER CABLES [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/spkr01.html here].
D23Sound.3.jpg
* To Frogs - each component (Low, LoMid, HiMid, High) is wired to a different NL8 pair.
</gallery>
** 4 NL8 cables terminating with 4 dual-banana pairs on the amp side.
** 4 NL8 Speakon-Speakon patch cables to daisy-chain 2 frogs per amp-set.
* Subs - each sub is wired on one pair. 4 NL8 pairs will carry signal from 4 amps, and each group of subs will be wired to one of the pairs.
** 2 NL8 cables terminating with 4 dual-banana pairs on the amp side.
** 14 NL8 Speakon-Speakon patch cables to daisy chain 2 subs per amp-set. (we'll need only 6 of these if we don't get the extra 8 subs)
* Current Whirlwind NL 8 Cable [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/ftp/ColorCode/wwcolorcode.pdf wiring codes]:
<div style="margin: 10px; padding-left: 100px; width: 400px;  " >
{| style="background:#333333; color:grey; border:medium double grey;"
|-
!Pin#
!Color
!Pin#
!Color
|-
| 1+
| style="color:black; padding-right:4px;"|Black
| 3+
| style="color:brown; padding-right:4px;"|Brown
|-
| 1-
| style="color:white; padding-right:4px;"|White
| 3-
| style="color:blue; padding-right:4px;"|Blue
|-
| 2+
| style="color:red; padding-right:4px;"|Red
| 4+
| style="color:orange; padding-right:4px;"|Orange
|-
| 2-
| style="color:green; padding-right:4px;"|Green
| 4-
| style="color:yellow; padding-right:4px;"|Yellow
|}
</div>


====TO DO (2007)====
==D22==
* Equipment testing (100% done)
Sound system used in D22 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
* [[Media:SoundSystem_cabling_diagram_v.1.1.pdf|Signal and power flow plan]] (100% done)
(2 working / 2 total) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs2/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS 2] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
* Equipment repair (100% done)
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
* Sub cabinet re-wiring - currently there are some subs wired for pair 1 and some for 2 - we need to get them all equally distributed between the four pairs. (100% done for the 8 subs that we have)
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/mixer/archive/djm-900nxs/black/overview/ DJM 900NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
* Rex/Dex speaker mounting plan (100% done)
(1/1) [https://www.ecler.com/images/downloads/data-sheets/Ecler_NUO20_Data_Sheet.pdf Ecler NUO 2.0] (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers<BR>
* NL8 speaker cable layout plan (100% done)
(2/2) [https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/zlx-15bt/ EV ZLX-15BT] - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!<BR>
* NL8 speaker cable stripping/screwing/soldering party (100% done)
(3/4) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/293821/Mackie-Sa1521.html Mackie SA1521] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
* Rack cooling solution - lead by Lowroad
(2/3) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/97213/Mackie-Srs1500.html?page=10 Mackie SRS1500] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
* Find a PC laptop to run [http://www.xta.uk.com/acore_software_info_frame.htm XTA Audiocore] - the crossover configuration software
* Make/buy a crate for all the cables (100% by NasaNich).
* '''Load out to the container''' (100% done - 6 Frogs and 6 Subs loaded onto Cory's container (Astor Playa), and the rest onto the NYC container)<BR><BR>-->


==DJ equipment==
<gallery heights=200 widths=300 mode="packed-hover">
* [http://www.1200s.com/ Technics 1200s] turntables (available now: 3/4)<br />
D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|Playa repairs
* [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=1 Denon DNS1000] MP3/CD players (available now: 2/2) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beIZeKPi2mU (demo)]<br />
DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|Back-up mixer of last resort
* [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069701_310131180,00.html Pioneer CDJ-700] CD player (available now: 0/1)<br />
D22DisorientLASound.jpg|Disorient LA Sound
* [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/ProDJ/TabletopPlayers/CD+Players/CDJ-800MK2 Pioneer CDJ-800MK2] CD player (available now: 1/1)<br />
</gallery>
<!--* [http://www.pioneerprodj.eu/eur/products/44/107/503/EFX-1000/index.html Pioneer EFX100 DJ Effector] (arrives in NYCContainer?) Lessons in use from Cdjilnik <br />-->
<!--
 
[[File:D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|400px]] [[File:DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|230px]] [[File:D22DisorientLASound.jpg|300px]]
* [http://www.allen-heath.com/UK/xone62.asp Allen and Heath Xone 62] DJ mixer (available now: 1/1)<br />
* [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069697_289964798,00.html Pioneer DJM 600] DJ mixer (available now: 1/1)<br />
[[Image:MiniD.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Mini D]]
'''Mini-D'''<br />
* [http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=176&o=&offset=1&c=102&s=78 SKB "DJ shuttle" ] packed with: <br />
* [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=57 Denon DN-X500] rack-mounted mixer<br />
* [http://www.jingle.org/dn-1800f.htm Denon DN-1800F] rack-mounted double CD player with controller<br />
<br />
 
==Wishlist==
* [http://www.pioneerprodj.com/dj-equipment/cd/cdj-1000mk3.asp Pioneer CDJ1000] ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=54547 buy]) CD players with single carry cases ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=22053 buy]) (2)<BR>
* [http://www.pioneerprodj.com/dj-equipment/cd/cdj-800mk2.asp Pioneer CDJ800] ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=54548 buy]) CD players with single carry cases ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=22053 buy]) (2)<BR>
* [http://www.odysseygear.com/products.php?sku=fttblk Odyssey FTTXBLK]  Turntable Travel Case ([http://www.pssl.com/bitemdetail.tpl~waGroup1datarq~%5BwaGroup1datarq%5D~eqint_KeyIDdata~21813~itemNumber~%5Bitem_number%5D~UID~%5Buid%5D?UID=2006102018073238~disp_IMG~Y~catgroup~%5BcatGroup%5D buy]) (2)<BR>
<!--* [http://www.allen-heath.com/UK/xone62.asp Allen and Heath Xone 62] ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=40419 buy]) DJ mixer with case ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=43956 buy]) (1) GIFTED BY PB AND MAL-QUI AT BM 2007 -->
* Travel case for DJ mixer ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=43956 buy]) or ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=32002 buy]) (1)
* [http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/modeldetail.aspx?page=modeldetail&section=P2GG&modelname=EU3000IS&modelid=EU3000ISAN Honda EU3000IS generator] (1)
<!--* [http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/itech.htm Crown iTech amplifiers]
** iTech 8000 ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=2&TempID=3&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy])(4)
** iTech 6000 ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=1&TempID=2&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy])(4)
** iTech 4000 ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=0&TempID=1&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy])(2)
-->
-->


==Cable inventory==
==Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way==
(September 24 2007)<br />
[http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound]<BR>
<br />
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
{| width="468" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
D16DustyDecks03.jpg
| XLR-XLR<br />
D16DustyDecks02.jpg
| very long - 2<br />
DustyDecks01.jpg
long - 4<br />
</gallery>
med - 10<br />
short - 7<br />
|-
| Speakon [http://www.neutrik.com/content/products/detail.aspx?id=210_308361&catId=CatMSDE_audio NL4FC] - dual banana<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| Raw speaker cable
| 1 roll
|-
| XLR Y cable 1f->2m<br />
| 2<br />
|-
| 1/4"m-XLRf<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| 1/4"m-XLRm
| 2<br />
|-
| 1/4" TRS m - XLR m dual<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| 1/4"m - 1/4"m<br />
| dual - 2 (in boxes)<br />
single - 5<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm-RCAm<br />
| valign="top" | dual - 6<br />
single - 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | 1/4"m - RCAm dual<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRm<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRf
| valign="top" | 0 (was 2)<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini stereo - dual RCAm<br />
| valign="top" | 0 (was 3)<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini mono - single<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | MIDI<br />
| valign="top" | 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | VGA - BNC components
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | BNC-BNC<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|}
<br />
<br />
<u>Adapters</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
<br />
{| width="467" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
| Speakon f - dual banan adapter<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | 1/4" stereo splitter m-2f<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRm-m gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 5<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRf -1/4"m<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCA f-f gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 0 (was 2)
|}
<br />
<br />
* [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/split.html Whirlwind Split 6] (available now: 2/2) (line level parallel splitters)<br />
<br />
<u>Power cables</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* IEC cords [http://www.mcmaster.com/#71535k56/=cyo8n order more]<br />
* Extension + 4-way splitter<br />
* Extension<br />
* Y cable<br />
<br />
<u>Mics</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* [http://www.akg-acoustics.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,7,id,482,pid,482,_language,EN.html AKG D800 ]- 1<br />
* Shure [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM58-CN_content SM58] - 1<br />
* [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_Beta58A_content Beta58] - 1<br />
<br />
 
[[Image:TheBass_Compressor2005.jpg|300px]]<BR>
The Bass with some bass at Compressor 2005.

Latest revision as of 19:21, 22 April 2025

D25

Lead: JP

In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x YG 75, 4x YG 30AD, 2x YG SUBAand 2x YG 12MA). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two YG SUBA will be repaired.

D24

Lead: Dmad

18" subs to be repaired for D25

Those have not been working for at least 2 years

  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg

20240710 Operation Deep Housecall

James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman.
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822
Goals:
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.

Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing

20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg

YG 75
YG 30AD
YG SUBA
YG 12MA


20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg

GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png

D23

Lead: Charlie Funk
Sound system at D23 Club House:

  • D23Sound.1.jpg
  • D23Sound.2.jpg
  • D23Sound.3.jpg

D22

Sound system used in D22 Club House:
(2 working / 2 total) CDJ 2000NXS 2 - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) CDJ 2000NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) DJM 900NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) Ecler NUO 2.0 (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers
(2/2) EV ZLX-15BT - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!
(3/4) Mackie SA1521 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)
(2/3) Mackie SRS1500 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)

  • Playa repairs

  • Back-up mixer of last resort

  • Disorient LA Sound

Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way

http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound

  • D16DustyDecks03.jpg
  • D16DustyDecks02.jpg
  • DustyDecks01.jpg
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