Difference between revisions of "Sound"

From Disorient wiki
Jump to: navigation, search
 
(112 intermediate revisions by 3 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
''Managed by [[User:Rumble|Rumble]], Seven and [http://www.flyvision.org/the_eye/ The Eye]<br />
==[[D25_Camp|D25]]==
''Puddle discussion''<nowiki>: </nowiki>[http://puddle.disorient.info/viewforum.php?f=3 Music and Events]<br />
Lead: <I>JP</I><BR>
<br />
We accept sound equipment donations.<br />
<br />
==Sound Systems==
===CROWN/CUSTOM===
Touring rig originally designed by [http://www.clair-audio.com/ Clair Brothers Systems]<BR>


[[Image:Bigsoundwideshot.jpg|800px]]
In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75], 4x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD], 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]and 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA] will be repaired.<BR>


====Racks====
==D24==
[[Image:IMG_7258.JPG|200px]] [[Image:Crown_macrotech_back.jpg|100px]]<br />
Lead: <I>Dmad</I><BR>
* 3 Racks - 20U, 16&quot; deep.  20&frac12;&quot; internal rack width, including ventilation clearance. 3&frac12;&quot; casters. 22&frac12;&quot; W x 44&frac12;&quot; H x 27&quot; D - ~15.65 cu. ft. each
===18" subs to be repaired for D25===
* [http://www.xta.uk.com/dp226_features.htm XTA Electronics DP-226 Loudspeaker Management] (crossover) (available now: 2/2)
Those have not been working for at least 2 years<BR>
* [http://www.xta.uk.com/dp324_features.htm XTA Electronics DP-324 Dynamic Processor] (available now: 1/1)
* [http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/130252.pdf Crown Macro Tech 1200] (amps) (available now: 20/20) <br />


===="Frogs"====
<gallery widths=380 heights=260 mode="packed-hover">
4-way speakers (available now: 8/8) (45"h x 30"w x 18.5"d ~= 14.5 cu. ft.)
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
* Low - [http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/2240gh.pdf JBL 2240H] (30 Hz - 2 kHz)
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg
* 2x Low-Mid (in parallel) - [http://www.jblpro.com/pub/components/eseries.pdf JBL E120-8] (50 Hz - 6 kHz)
</gallery>
* Hi-Mid horn JBL 2385 / [http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2385a.pdf 2385A] (500 Hz - 16 kHz)
* 2x Tweeter (in series) - ?
<br />
The enclosure has two Speakon NL8 8-pole panel connectors for daisy-chaining them. Each pair drives each of the components. Pair #1 is connected the low driver, 2 - Low-Mid (in parallel) , 3 - Hi-Mid, and 4 to the tweeter pair (in parallel)


Two Frogs have dead 18&quot; woofers - <span style="color:yellow;">replaced</span><br />
===20240710 Operation Deep Housecall===
One 12&quot; Lo-Mid's diaphragm is cracked - <span style="color:yellow;">replaced</span>.
<I>James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman</I>.<BR>
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822<BR>
Goals:<BR>
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.<BR>
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.<BR>


====Subs====
Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:<BR>
(available now: 8/16) (35.5"h x 25.5"w x 24"d ~= 12.6 cu.ft)<br />
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing<BR>
* [http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2241.pdf JBL 2241H]
The cabinet has two Speakon NL8 8-pole panel connectors for daisy-chaining them. The subs are organized in four groups on the speaker signal NL8 bus; the subs in each group are connected to only one of the 4 pairs. Four amps can power the four groups of subs by using one NL8 Speakon cable daisy-chain - each amp will be connected to one of the pairs.


====Cables====
[[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg|370px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg|800px]]<BR>
[[Media:SoundSystem_cabling_diagram_v.1.1.pdf|Cabling diagram]]
=====Patch cables=====
* 2 x 5 XLRf-XLRm from XTA crossovers to amp channels (5-way on each side)
* 2 x 7 TRS-XLRm to daisy-chain amps (4 for a second set of Frog amps, and 3 for a total of 4 sub amps on each side)
=====NL8 Speakon cables=====
These whirlwind cables are 0.590&quot; thick and carry 8 13GA conductors. [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/audio02.html look for model W13/8 here], or  MULTILINE SPEAKER CABLES [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/spkr01.html here].
* To Frogs - each component (Low, LoMid, HiMid, High) is wired to a different NL8 pair.
** 4 NL8 cables terminating with 4 dual-banana pairs on the amp side.
** 4 NL8 Speakon-Speakon patch cables to daisy-chain 2 frogs per amp-set.
* Subs - each sub is wired on one pair. 4 NL8 pairs will carry signal from 4 amps, and each group of subs will be wired to one of the pairs.
** 2 NL8 cables terminating with 4 dual-banana pairs on the amp side.
** 14 NL8 Speakon-Speakon patch cables to daisy chain 2 subs per amp-set. (we'll need only 6 of these if we don't get the extra 8 subs)
* Current Whirlwind NL 8 Cable [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/ftp/ColorCode/wwcolorcode.pdf wiring codes]:
<div style="margin: 10px; padding-left: 100px; width: 400px;  " >
{| style="background:#333333; color:grey; border:medium double grey;"
|-
!Pin#
!Color
!Pin#
!Color
|-
| 1+
| style="color:black; padding-right:4px;"|Black
| 3+
| style="color:brown; padding-right:4px;"|Brown
|-
| 1-
| style="color:white; padding-right:4px;"|White
| 3-
| style="color:blue; padding-right:4px;"|Blue
|-
| 2+
| style="color:red; padding-right:4px;"|Red
| 4+
| style="color:orange; padding-right:4px;"|Orange
|-
| 2-
| style="color:green; padding-right:4px;"|Green
| 4-
| style="color:yellow; padding-right:4px;"|Yellow
|}
</div>


====TODO====
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75]<BR>
* Equipment testing (90% done)
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD]<BR>
* [[Media:SoundSystem_cabling_diagram_v.1.1.pdf|Signal and power flow plan]] (100% done)
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]<BR>
* Equipment repair (90% done)
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]<BR>
* Sub cabinet re-wiring - currently there are some subs wired for pair 1 and some for 2 - we need to get them all equally distributed between the four pairs. (100% done for the 8 subs that we have)
* Rex/Dex speaker mounting plan (100% done)
* NL8 speaker cable layout plan (100% done)
* NL8 speaker cable stripping/screwing/soldering party (100% done)
* Rack cooling solution - lead by Lowroad
* Find a PC laptop to run [http://www.xta.uk.com/acore_software_info_frame.htm XTA Audiocore] - the crossover configuration software
* Make/buy a crate for all the cables.
* '''Load out to the container'''


<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />


===MACKIE (amplified speakers)===
[[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg|800px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg|350px]]
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/ Mackie SRM450] (available now: 4/4) (15x15x26 = 3.39 total= 13.56)<br />
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/ Mackie SRS1500] (available now: 3/3) (24x17x24 = 5.67 total= 17.01)<br />
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1521/ Mackie SA1521] (available now: 2/2) (18x17x32 = 5.67 total= 11.34)<br />
[[Image:Disorient_sound.jpg|200px]]<br />


===CREST/EAW===
[[Image:GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png|500px]]<BR>
* [http://www.crestaudio.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/116225/number/CFA-CA9-AB/cat/319/CA+Series.cfm Crest Audio CA9] (power amps) (available now: 3/3) (23x22x24 = 7)<br />
* [http://www.eaw.com/documents/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/MKe_series/MK5194e/MK5194_polar.pdf EAW MK5194] (500W speakers) (available now: 5/5) (20x16x30 = 5.56 total= 27.8)<br />
total cubic feet for systems 2 and 3 = 77<br />


==DJ equipment==
==D23==
* [http://www.1200s.com/ Technics 1200s] turntables (available now: 2/4)<br />
Lead: <I>Charlie Funk</I><BR>
* [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=1 Denon DNS1000] MP3/CD players (available now: 2/2)<br />
Sound system at D23 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
* [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069701_310131180,00.html Pioneer CDJ700s] CD player (available now: 1/1)<br />
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
* [http://www.pioneerprodj.eu/eur/products/44/107/503/EFX-1000/index.html Pioneer EFX100 DJ Effector] (arrives in NYCContainer?) Lessons in use from Cdjilnik <br />
D23Sound.1.jpg
D23Sound.2.jpg
D23Sound.3.jpg
</gallery>


==D22==
Sound system used in D22 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
(2 working / 2 total) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs2/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS 2] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/mixer/archive/djm-900nxs/black/overview/ DJM 900NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
(1/1) [https://www.ecler.com/images/downloads/data-sheets/Ecler_NUO20_Data_Sheet.pdf Ecler NUO 2.0] (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers<BR>
(2/2) [https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/zlx-15bt/ EV ZLX-15BT] - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!<BR>
(3/4) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/293821/Mackie-Sa1521.html Mackie SA1521] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
(2/3) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/97213/Mackie-Srs1500.html?page=10 Mackie SRS1500] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
<gallery heights=200 widths=300 mode="packed-hover">
D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|Playa repairs
DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|Back-up mixer of last resort
D22DisorientLASound.jpg|Disorient LA Sound
</gallery>
<!--
<!--
* [http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/productCont.php?ap=2&sub=1&id=1 ECLER NUO 2] DJ mixer (available now: 0/1)<br />-->
[[File:D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|400px]] [[File:DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|230px]] [[File:D22DisorientLASound.jpg|300px]]
[[Image:MiniD.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Mini D]]
-->
'''Mini-D'''<br />
* [http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=176&o=&offset=1&c=102&s=78 An SKB "DJ shuttle" ] packed with: <br />
* [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=57 Denon DN-X500] rack-mounted mixer<br />
* [http://www.jingle.org/dn-1800f.htm Denon DN-1800F] rack-mounted double CD player with controller<br />
<br />
 
==Wishlist==
* [http://www.pioneerprodj.com/gear_cdj1000mk3.html Pioneer CDJ1000] ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=54547 buy]) CD players with single carry cases ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=22053 buy]) (4)<BR>
* [http://www.allen-heath.com/UK/xone62.asp Allen and Heath Xone 62] ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=40419 buy]) DJ mixer with case ([http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=43956 buy]) (1)
* [http://www.crownaudio.com/amp_htm/itech.htm Crown iTech amplifiers]
** iTech 8000 [http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=2&TempID=3&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy](4)
** iTech 6000 [http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=1&TempID=2&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy](4)
** iTech 4000 [http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemPos=0&TempID=1&STRID=164016&Method=2&CategoryID=0&BrandID=0&PriceRangeID=0&PageNum=0&DepartmentID=0&pagesize=10&SortMethod=2&SearchPhrase=itech&Contains=%2Aitech%2A&Search_Type=SEARCH&GroupCode= buy](2)
 
==Cable inventory==
(Oct 13 2006)<br />
<br />
{| width="468" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
| XLR-XLR<br />
| long - 10<br />
med - 13<br />
short - 9<br />
|-
| Speakon [http://www.neutrik.com/content/products/detail.aspx?id=210_308361&catId=CatMSDE_audio NL4FC] - dual banana<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| Raw speaker cable
| 1 roll
|-
| XLR Y cable 1f->2m<br />
| 2<br />
|-
| 1/4"m-XLRf<br />
| 2+1 short<br />
|-
| 1/4"m-XLRm
| 1<br />
|-
| 1/4" TRS m - XLR m dual<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| 1/4"m - 1/4"m<br />
| dual - 2 (in boxes)<br />
single - 5<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm-RCAm<br />
| valign="top" | dual - 6<br />
single - 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | 1/4"m - RCAm dual<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRm<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRf
| valign="top" | 2<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini stereo - dual RCAm<br />
| valign="top" | 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini mono - single<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | MIDI<br />
| valign="top" | 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | VGA - BNC components
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | BNC-BNC<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|}
<br />
<br />
<u>Adapters</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
<br />
{| width="467" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
| Speakon f - dual banan adapter<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | 1/4" stereo splitter m-2f<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRm-m gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 5<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRf -1/4"m<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCA f-f gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 2
|}
<br />
<br />
* [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/split.html Whirlwind Split 6] (available now: 2/2) (line level parallel splitters)<br />
<br />
<u>Power cables</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* 20 standard grounded + 1 not grounded<br />
* Extension + 4-way splitter<br />
* Extension<br />
* Y cable<br />
<br />
<u>Mics</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* [http://www.akg-acoustics.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,7,id,482,pid,482,_language,EN.html AKG D800 ]- 1<br />
* Shure [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM58-CN_content SM58] - 1<br />
* [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_Beta58A_content Beta58] - 1<br />
<br />


[[Image:TheBass_Compressor2005.jpg|300px]]<BR>
==Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way==
The Bass with some bass at Compressor 2005.
[http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound]<BR>
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
D16DustyDecks03.jpg
D16DustyDecks02.jpg
DustyDecks01.jpg
</gallery>

Latest revision as of 19:21, 22 April 2025

D25

Lead: JP

In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x YG 75, 4x YG 30AD, 2x YG SUBAand 2x YG 12MA). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two YG SUBA will be repaired.

D24

Lead: Dmad

18" subs to be repaired for D25

Those have not been working for at least 2 years

  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg

20240710 Operation Deep Housecall

James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman.
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822
Goals:
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.

Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing

20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg

YG 75
YG 30AD
YG SUBA
YG 12MA


20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg

GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png

D23

Lead: Charlie Funk
Sound system at D23 Club House:

  • D23Sound.1.jpg
  • D23Sound.2.jpg
  • D23Sound.3.jpg

D22

Sound system used in D22 Club House:
(2 working / 2 total) CDJ 2000NXS 2 - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) CDJ 2000NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) DJM 900NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) Ecler NUO 2.0 (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers
(2/2) EV ZLX-15BT - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!
(3/4) Mackie SA1521 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)
(2/3) Mackie SRS1500 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)

  • Playa repairs

  • Back-up mixer of last resort

  • Disorient LA Sound

Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way

http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound

  • D16DustyDecks03.jpg
  • D16DustyDecks02.jpg
  • DustyDecks01.jpg
Retrieved from "https://wiki.disorient.info/index.php?title=Sound&oldid=23027"