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''Managed by [http://www.flyvision.org/dis/2002/slideshow/sound.03.html The Bass]<br />
==[[D26_Camp|D26]]==
Organized by Rumble''<br />
===20260511===
''Puddle discussion''<nowiki>: </nowiki>[http://puddle.disorient.info/viewforum.php?f=3 Music and Events]<br />
<I>Martin</I> and <I>Seven</I><BR>
<br />
 
We accept sound equipment donations.<br />
We're getting Emilio's sound system for [[Club_House|Club House]] this year. Here's what it looks like<BR>
<br />
 
===Sound Systems===
<gallery heights=170 widths=200 mode="packed-hover">
====Sound system 1: MACKIE (amplified speakers) (cubic feet)====
Image:20260511.EmiliosSystem.1.webp
- [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/ Mackie SRM450] (available now: 2/4) (15x15x26 = 3.39 total= 13.56)<br />
Image:20260511.EmiliosSystem.2.webp
- [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/ Mackie SRS1500] (available now: 3/3) (24x17x24 = 5.67 total= 17.01)<br />
Image:20260511.EmiliosSystem.3.webp
- [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1521/ Mackie SA1521] (available now: 0/2) (18x17x32 = 5.67 total= 11.34)<br />
</gallery>
<br />
 
====Sound system 2: CREST/EAW====
===20260505 - Reno-Gerlach-Reno Mission===
- [http://www.crestaudio.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/116225/number/CFA-CA9-AB/cat/319/CA+Series.cfm Crest Audio CA9] (power amps) (available now: 3/3) (23x22x24 = 7)<br />
<I>Matthew, IceCream</I>, and <I>the eye</I> with <I>Brinksman</I> support<BR>
- [http://www.eaw.com/documents/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/MKe_series/MK5194e/MK5194_polar.pdf EAW MK5194] (500W speakers) (available now: 5/5) (20x16x30 = 5.56 total= 27.8)<br />
 
<br />
After D25 the [[#20240710 Operation Deep Housecall|YME sound system speakers]] and other speakers stored in #2060 need to be repaired. We collect them in Gerlach and drop them at Mario's in Reno for maintenance.<BR>
total cubic feet for both systems = 77<br />
 
<br />
<gallery heights=180 widths=200 mode="packed-hover">
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Image:20260512.DisorientSoundSystemRepair.1.jpg
===DJ equipment:===
Image:20260512.DisorientSoundSystemRepair.2.jpg
====Gear====
Image:20260512.DisorientSoundSystemRepair.3.jpg
- 4 [http://www.1200s.com/ Technics 1200s] (2 belong to the bass)<br />
Image:20260512.DisorientSoundSystemRepair.4.jpg
- 2 [http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=32399 Denon DNS1000 MP3 CD players] (available now: 2/2)<br />
</gallery>
- 1 [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069701_310131180,00.html Pioneer CDJ700s]<br />
 
- [http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/productCont.php?ap=2&sub=1&id=1 ECLER NUO 2] on loan from the bass <br />
==[[D25_Camp|D25]]==
<br />
Lead: <I>JP and Champion</I><BR>
http://www.pladott.org/images/public/MiniD.jpg "Mini-D"<br />
 
- [http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=176&o=&offset=1&c=102&s=78 An SKB "DJ shuttle" ] packed with: <br />
In 2025, we used this Void setup as our main system in the [[Club House]].<BR>
- [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=57 Denon DN-X500] rack-mounted mixer<br />
 
- [http://www.jingle.org/dn-1800f.htm Denon DN-1800F] rack-mounted double CD player with controller <br />
<gallery heights=170 widths=200 mode="packed-hover">
<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.1.jpg
<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.2.jpg
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Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.3.jpg
====Cable inventory====
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.4.jpg
(Oct 13 2006)<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.5.jpg
<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.6.jpg
{| width="468" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.7.jpg
| XLR-XLR<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.8.jpg
| long - 10<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.9.jpg
med - 13<br />
Image:D25.VoidSoundSystem.10.jpg
short - 9<br />
</gallery>
|-
 
| Speakon m - dual banana<br />
 
| 1<br />
Our YME sound system will be ready to be deployed as back up.<BR>
|-
(12x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75], 4x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD], 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]and 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]).<BR>
| Raw speaker cable
It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year. We repaired the two
| 1 roll
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA] this year.<BR>
|-
 
| XLR Y cable 1f->2m<br />
Post D25 notes:<BR>
| 2<br />
Elements of the GKR system were used at D25 [[Duke's]]. Some speakers need to be [[#20260505 - Reno-Gerlach-Reno Mission|repaired]] before D26.<BR>
|-
 
| 1/4"m-XLRf<br />
==D24==
| 2+1 short<br />
Lead: <I>Dmad</I><BR>
|-
===18" subs to be repaired for D25===
| 1/4"m-XLRm
Those have not been working for at least 2 years<BR>
| 1<br />
 
|-
<gallery widths=380 heights=260 mode="packed-hover">
| 1/4" TRS m - XLR m dual<br />
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
| 1<br />
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg
|-
</gallery>
| 1/4"m - 1/4"m<br />
 
| dual - 2 (in boxes)<br />
===20240710 Operation Deep Housecall===
single - 5<br />
<I>James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman</I>.<BR>
|-
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822<BR>
| valign="top" | RCAm-RCAm<br />
Goals:<BR>
| valign="top" | dual - 6<br />
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.<BR>
single - 3<br />
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.<BR>
|-
 
| valign="top" | 1/4"m - RCAm dual<br />
Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:<BR>
| valign="top" | 1<br />
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing<BR>
|-
 
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRm<br />
[[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg|370px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg|800px]]<BR>
| valign="top" | 1<br />
 
|-
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75]<BR>
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRf
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD]<BR>
| valign="top" | 2<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]<BR>
|-
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]<BR>
| valign="top" | Mini stereo - dual RCAm<br />
 
| valign="top" | 3<br />
 
|-
[[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg|800px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg|350px]]
| valign="top" | Mini mono - single<br />
 
| valign="top" | 1<br />
[[Image:GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png|500px]]<BR>
|-
 
| valign="top" | MIDI<br />
==D23==
| valign="top" | 3<br />
Lead: <I>Charlie Funk</I><BR>
|-
Sound system at D23 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
| valign="top" | VGA - BNC components
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
| valign="top" | 1<br />
D23Sound.1.jpg
|-
D23Sound.2.jpg
| valign="top" | BNC-BNC<br />
D23Sound.3.jpg
| valign="top" | 1<br />
</gallery>
|}
 
<br />
==D22==
<br />
Sound system used in D22 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
<u>Adapters</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
(2 working / 2 total) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs2/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS 2] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
<br />
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
{| width="467" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/mixer/archive/djm-900nxs/black/overview/ DJM 900NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
| Speakon f - dual banan adapter<br />
(1/1) [https://www.ecler.com/images/downloads/data-sheets/Ecler_NUO20_Data_Sheet.pdf Ecler NUO 2.0] (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers<BR>
| 1<br />
(2/2) [https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/zlx-15bt/ EV ZLX-15BT] - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!<BR>
|-
(3/4) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/293821/Mackie-Sa1521.html Mackie SA1521] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
| valign="top" | 1/4" stereo splitter m-2f<br />
(2/3) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/97213/Mackie-Srs1500.html?page=10 Mackie SRS1500] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
| valign="top" | 1<br />
 
|-
<gallery heights=200 widths=300 mode="packed-hover">
| valign="top" | XLRm-m gender changer<br />
D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|Playa repairs
| valign="top" | 5<br />
DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|Back-up mixer of last resort
|-
D22DisorientLASound.jpg|Disorient LA Sound
| valign="top" | XLRf -1/4"m<br />
</gallery>
| valign="top" | 1<br />
<!--
|-
[[File:D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|400px]] [[File:DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|230px]] [[File:D22DisorientLASound.jpg|300px]]
| valign="top" | RCA f-f gender changer<br />
-->
| valign="top" | 2
 
|}
==Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way==
<br />
[http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound]<BR>
<br />
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
- [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/split.html Whirlwind Split 6] (available now: 2/2) (line level parallel splitters)<br />
D16DustyDecks03.jpg
<br />
D16DustyDecks02.jpg
<u>Power cables</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
DustyDecks01.jpg
- 20 standard grounded + 1 not grounded<br />
</gallery>
- Extension + 4-way splitter<br />
- Extension<br />
- Y cable<br />
<br />
<u>Mics</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
[http://www.akg-acoustics.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,7,id,482,pid,482,_language,EN.html AKG D800 ]- 1<br />
Shure [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM58-CN_content SM58] - 1<br />
[http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_Beta58A_content Beta58] - 1<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
====We need:====
- list needed items here<br />
<br />
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===Updates===
====UPDATE (Jan. 29, 2006)====
In 2005, the tops were suspended from the Disorient Express, but we still needed a support truck to carry our subs. We also towed a full-sized hitched generator behind the DeX. This year, there is much enthusiasm on the Puddle to tow a small trailer behind the DeX that holds both a smaller generator and the subs; with numerous possibilities for camouflaging them into rolling artworks. <br />
<br />
<br />
====UPDATE (March 14, 2005)====
We have now acquired THREE new Mackie [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/index.html SRS 1500] Subs. That gives us four total, which is a lot of bass for the middle of the desert. Next acquisition target: two Mackie 1521 tops...stay tuned! <br />
<br />
[http://www.flyvision.org/dis/2005/pix/disorient_sound.jpg  http://www.flyvision.org/dis/2005/pix/disorient_sound.jpg]<br />
<br />
<br />
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===='''2005 preliminary thoughts on sound'''====
by The Bass <br />
<br />
In [[history|past years]], we've rented big honking systems from [http://www.jksound.com JK Sound] in San Francisco.<br />
<br />
On the plus side, lots of JK peeps have been on the playa, they've helped us a bunch, and we've sounded fantastic.<br />
<br />
On the downside, it's EXPENSIVE - about $4k for sound rental in 2004 and $6k for the system in 2003.<br />
<br />
There have also been some mutterings that there might be TOO MUCH SOUND in Disorient - at least, too much for anyone to sleep very comfortably. <br />
<br />
Finally - there's just no way we can lug around such a massive sound system on the Di5orient Express. Too Freakin' Big! <br />
<br />
THEREFORE.... <br />
<br />
My plan is to get a bunch of Mackie gear. It's robust, it's portable, it's modular, and it sounds pretty freaking good. <br />
<br />
Right now I have one [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/index.html SRS1500] sub and two [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/index.html SRM 450] tops. <br />
<br />
We could have a respectable little dancefloor with just one more sub and 3 more tops (so we could use one as a DJ monitor). Two subs and 5 more tops would be even better. And so forth. <br />
<br />
And then there are the big Mackie [http://www.mackie.com/products/swa1801/ subs] and [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1232/ tops]. Yum! <br />
<br />
I am no sound engineer. But I think if we get enough of this Mackie stuff, we can get it sounding pretty good. Maybe not as good as a JK system -- but probably good enough for a lot of happiness. <br />
<br />
Comments/edits welcome! <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A smaller, more portable and modular system will be not only be easier to mount and move, it will be easier to position. The JK stacks were too gargantuan to even aim. <br />

Latest revision as of 20:22, 12 May 2026

D26

20260511

Martin and Seven

We're getting Emilio's sound system for Club House this year. Here's what it looks like

20260505 - Reno-Gerlach-Reno Mission

Matthew, IceCream, and the eye with Brinksman support

After D25 the YME sound system speakers and other speakers stored in #2060 need to be repaired. We collect them in Gerlach and drop them at Mario's in Reno for maintenance.

D25

Lead: JP and Champion

In 2025, we used this Void setup as our main system in the Club House.


Our YME sound system will be ready to be deployed as back up.
(12x YG 75, 4x YG 30AD, 2x YG SUBAand 2x YG 12MA).
It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year. We repaired the two YG SUBA this year.

Post D25 notes:
Elements of the GKR system were used at D25 Duke's. Some speakers need to be repaired before D26.

D24

Lead: Dmad

18" subs to be repaired for D25

Those have not been working for at least 2 years

20240710 Operation Deep Housecall

James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman.
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822
Goals:
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.

Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing

20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg

YG 75
YG 30AD
YG SUBA
YG 12MA


20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg

GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png

D23

Lead: Charlie Funk
Sound system at D23 Club House:

D22

Sound system used in D22 Club House:
(2 working / 2 total) CDJ 2000NXS 2 - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) CDJ 2000NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) DJM 900NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) Ecler NUO 2.0 (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers
(2/2) EV ZLX-15BT - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!
(3/4) Mackie SA1521 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)
(2/3) Mackie SRS1500 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)

Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way

http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound