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''Managed by [http://www.flyvision.org/dis/2002/slideshow/sound.03.html The Bass]<br />
==[[D25_Camp|D25]]==
Organized by Rumble''<br />
Lead: <I>JP</I><BR>
''Puddle discussion''<nowiki>: </nowiki>[http://puddle.disorient.info/viewforum.php?f=3 Music and Events]<br />
 
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In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75], 4x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD], 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]and 2x [http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two
We accept sound equipment donations.<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA] will be repaired.<BR>
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===Sound Systems===
==D24==
----
Lead: <I>Dmad</I><BR>
====Sound system 1: MACKIE (amplified speakers) (cubic feet)====
===18" subs to be repaired for D25===
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/ Mackie SRM450] (available now: 2/4) (15x15x26 = 3.39 total= 13.56)<br />
Those have not been working for at least 2 years<BR>
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/ Mackie SRS1500] (available now: 3/3) (24x17x24 = 5.67 total= 17.01)<br />
 
* [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1521/ Mackie SA1521] (available now: 0/2) (18x17x32 = 5.67 total= 11.34)<br />
<gallery widths=380 heights=260 mode="packed-hover">
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Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
====Sound system 2: CREST/EAW====
Image:D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg
* [http://www.crestaudio.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/116225/number/CFA-CA9-AB/cat/319/CA+Series.cfm Crest Audio CA9] (power amps) (available now: 3/3) (23x22x24 = 7)<br />
</gallery>
* [http://www.eaw.com/documents/Loudspeaker_Product_Info/Discontinued_Loudspeakers/MKe_series/MK5194e/MK5194_polar.pdf EAW MK5194] (500W speakers) (available now: 5/5) (20x16x30 = 5.56 total= 27.8)<br />
 
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===20240710 Operation Deep Housecall===
total cubic feet for both systems = 77<br />
<I>James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman</I>.<BR>
<br />
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822<BR>
<br />
Goals:<BR>
===DJ equipment:===
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.<BR>
====Gear====
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.<BR>
* 4 [http://www.1200s.com/ Technics 1200s] (2 belong to the bass)<br />
 
* 2 [http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=32399 Denon DNS1000 MP3 CD players] (available now: 2/2)<br />
Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:<BR>
* 1 [http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069701_310131180,00.html Pioneer CDJ700s]<br />
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing<BR>
* [http://www.eclerdjdivision.com/productCont.php?ap=2&sub=1&id=1 ECLER NUO 2] on loan from the bass <br />
 
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[[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg|370px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg|800px]]<BR>
[[Image:MiniD.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Mini D]]
 
'''Mini-D'''<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=97 YG 75]<BR>
* [http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=176&o=&offset=1&c=102&s=78 An SKB "DJ shuttle" ] packed with: <br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=99 YG 30AD]<BR>
* [http://www.denondj.com/prodview_item.asp?pid=57 Denon DN-X500] rack-mounted mixer<br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=101 YG SUBA]<BR>
* [http://www.jingle.org/dn-1800f.htm Denon DN-1800F] rack-mounted double CD player with controller <br />
[http://www.ymesystems.com/en/products/view.aspx?id=188 YG 12MA]<BR>
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====Cable inventory====
 
(Oct 13 2006)<br />
[[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg|800px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg|350px]] [[Image:20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg|350px]]
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{| width="468" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
[[Image:GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png|500px]]<BR>
| XLR-XLR<br />
 
| long - 10<br />
==D23==
med - 13<br />
Lead: <I>Charlie Funk</I><BR>
short - 9<br />
Sound system at D23 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
|-
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
| Speakon m - dual banana<br />
D23Sound.1.jpg
| 1<br />
D23Sound.2.jpg
|-
D23Sound.3.jpg
| Raw speaker cable
</gallery>
| 1 roll
 
|-
==D22==
| XLR Y cable 1f->2m<br />
Sound system used in D22 [[Club_House|Club House]]:<BR>
| 2<br />
(2 working / 2 total) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs2/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS 2] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
|-
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/player/archive/cdj-2000nxs/black/overview/ CDJ 2000NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
| 1/4"m-XLRf<br />
(1/1) [https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/product/mixer/archive/djm-900nxs/black/overview/ DJM 900NXS] - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)<BR>
| 2+1 short<br />
(1/1) [https://www.ecler.com/images/downloads/data-sheets/Ecler_NUO20_Data_Sheet.pdf Ecler NUO 2.0] (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers<BR>
|-
(2/2) [https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/zlx-15bt/ EV ZLX-15BT] - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!<BR>
| 1/4"m-XLRm
(3/4) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/293821/Mackie-Sa1521.html Mackie SA1521] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
| 1<br />
(2/3) [https://www.manualslib.com/manual/97213/Mackie-Srs1500.html?page=10 Mackie SRS1500] - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)<BR>
|-
 
| 1/4" TRS m - XLR m dual<br />
<gallery heights=200 widths=300 mode="packed-hover">
| 1<br />
D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|Playa repairs
|-
DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|Back-up mixer of last resort
| 1/4"m - 1/4"m<br />
D22DisorientLASound.jpg|Disorient LA Sound
| dual - 2 (in boxes)<br />
</gallery>
single - 5<br />
<!--
|-
[[File:D22CDJPlayaRepairs.jpg|400px]] [[File:DisorientDJMixerBackUpEclerNUO2.0.jpg|230px]] [[File:D22DisorientLASound.jpg|300px]]
| valign="top" | RCAm-RCAm<br />
-->
| valign="top" | dual - 6<br />
 
single - 3<br />
==Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way==
|-
[http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound]<BR>
| valign="top" | 1/4"m - RCAm dual<br />
<gallery heights=200px widths=300px mode="packed-hover">
| valign="top" | 1<br />
D16DustyDecks03.jpg
|-
D16DustyDecks02.jpg
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRm<br />
DustyDecks01.jpg
| valign="top" | 1<br />
</gallery>
|-
| valign="top" | RCAm - XLRf
| valign="top" | 2<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini stereo - dual RCAm<br />
| valign="top" | 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | Mini mono - single<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | MIDI<br />
| valign="top" | 3<br />
|-
| valign="top" | VGA - BNC components
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | BNC-BNC<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|}
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<u>Adapters</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
<br />
{| width="467" border="1" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1"
| Speakon f - dual banan adapter<br />
| 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | 1/4" stereo splitter m-2f<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRm-m gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 5<br />
|-
| valign="top" | XLRf -1/4"m<br />
| valign="top" | 1<br />
|-
| valign="top" | RCA f-f gender changer<br />
| valign="top" | 2
|}
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* [http://www.whirlwindusa.com/split.html Whirlwind Split 6] (available now: 2/2) (line level parallel splitters)<br />
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<u>Power cables</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* 20 standard grounded + 1 not grounded<br />
* Extension + 4-way splitter<br />
* Extension<br />
* Y cable<br />
<br />
<u>Mics</u><nowiki>:</nowiki><br />
* [http://www.akg-acoustics.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,7,id,482,pid,482,_language,EN.html AKG D800 ]- 1<br />
* Shure [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM58-CN_content SM58] - 1<br />
* [http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_Beta58A_content Beta58] - 1<br />
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====We need:====
* list needed items here<br />
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===Updates===
====UPDATE (Jan. 29, 2006)====
In 2005, the tops were suspended from the Disorient Express, but we still needed a support truck to carry our subs. We also towed a full-sized hitched generator behind the DeX. This year, there is much enthusiasm on the Puddle to tow a small trailer behind the DeX that holds both a smaller generator and the subs; with numerous possibilities for camouflaging them into rolling artworks. <br />
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<br />
====UPDATE (March 14, 2005)====
We have now acquired THREE new Mackie [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/index.html SRS 1500] Subs. That gives us four total, which is a lot of bass for the middle of the desert. Next acquisition target: two Mackie 1521 tops...stay tuned! <br />
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[[Image:Disorient_sound.jpg|800px]]<br />
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===='''2005 preliminary thoughts on sound'''====
by The Bass <br />
<br />
In [[history|past years]], we've rented big honking systems from [http://www.jksound.com JK Sound] in San Francisco.<br />
<br />
On the plus side, lots of JK peeps have been on the playa, they've helped us a bunch, and we've sounded fantastic.<br />
<br />
On the downside, it's EXPENSIVE - about $4k for sound rental in 2004 and $6k for the system in 2003.<br />
<br />
There have also been some mutterings that there might be TOO MUCH SOUND in Disorient - at least, too much for anyone to sleep very comfortably. <br />
<br />
Finally - there's just no way we can lug around such a massive sound system on the Di5orient Express. Too Freakin' Big! <br />
<br />
THEREFORE.... <br />
<br />
My plan is to get a bunch of Mackie gear. It's robust, it's portable, it's modular, and it sounds pretty freaking good. <br />
<br />
Right now I have one [http://www.mackie.com/products/srs1500/index.html SRS1500] sub and two [http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450/index.html SRM 450] tops. <br />
<br />
We could have a respectable little dancefloor with just one more sub and 3 more tops (so we could use one as a DJ monitor). Two subs and 5 more tops would be even better. And so forth. <br />
<br />
And then there are the big Mackie [http://www.mackie.com/products/swa1801/ subs] and [http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1232/ tops]. Yum! <br />
<br />
I am no sound engineer. But I think if we get enough of this Mackie stuff, we can get it sounding pretty good. Maybe not as good as a JK system -- but probably good enough for a lot of happiness. <br />
<br />
Comments/edits welcome! <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
A smaller, more portable and modular system will be not only be easier to mount and move, it will be easier to position. The JK stacks were too gargantuan to even aim. <br />

Latest revision as of 19:21, 22 April 2025

D25

Lead: JP

In 2025, we will continue to use our Yoga sound system (12x YG 75, 4x YG 30AD, 2x YG SUBAand 2x YG 12MA). It was new when we first used it in 2023 and we're actively maintaining it so it improves every year for instance the two YG SUBA will be repaired.

D24

Lead: Dmad

18" subs to be repaired for D25

Those have not been working for at least 2 years

  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.1.jpg
  • D24.DisorientSoundSystemSubsToBeRepaired.2.jpg

20240710 Operation Deep Housecall

James Patrick, ItsJohnFoster, Mandy, Kmak, So On It and Brinksman.
Discussion: https://discord.com/channels/932718953892040734/1114552806771277915/1260304384043253822
Goals:
1. Gather, clean and test Yoga sound system.
2. Store system in Reno container to be shipped to playa.

Yoga sound system inventory and configurations diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PMgM3mOXFagq4drG_HepZ5uflG_RMx6u?usp=sharing

20240712.YogaSoundSystemBuildDiagram.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemWiringConfig.jpg 20240712.YogaSoundSystemInventory.1.jpg

YG 75
YG 30AD
YG SUBA
YG 12MA


20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.1.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.2.jpg 20240711.YogaSoundSystemCableInventory.3.jpg

GKRSoundSystem2017PackinList.png

D23

Lead: Charlie Funk
Sound system at D23 Club House:

  • D23Sound.1.jpg
  • D23Sound.2.jpg
  • D23Sound.3.jpg

D22

Sound system used in D22 Club House:
(2 working / 2 total) CDJ 2000NXS 2 - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) CDJ 2000NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) DJM 900NXS - after D22 kept at Charlie Funk (PA)
(1/1) Ecler NUO 2.0 (last resort back-up mixer) - after D22 stayed in playa containers
(2/2) EV ZLX-15BT - after D22, disappeared, apparently during NYC Container load-out. Next time: LABEL our gear!
(3/4) Mackie SA1521 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)
(2/3) Mackie SRS1500 - after D22 kept at Tejawe (LA)

  • Playa repairs

  • Back-up mixer of last resort

  • Disorient LA Sound

Sound equipment we used to own but have lost along the way

http://tinyurl.com/disorientsound

  • D16DustyDecks03.jpg
  • D16DustyDecks02.jpg
  • DustyDecks01.jpg
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