D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map - Revision history

The eye at 08:09, 29 November 2018

2018-11-29T08:09:38Z

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	On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye ~~<the.eye@disorient.info>~~ wrote:<BR>		On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye wrote:<BR>

	D18 Cell Leads:		D18 Cell Leads:
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	From: Amber Straub ~~<shadas@gmail.com>~~		From: Amber Straub
	Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 28, 2018 at 5:11:51 AM GMT+8		Date: November 28, 2018 at 5:11:51 AM GMT+8
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	From: Jacob Joaquin ~~<jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>~~		From: Jacob Joaquin
	Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 28, 2018 at 1:57:12 AM GMT+8		Date: November 28, 2018 at 1:57:12 AM GMT+8
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	From: <ted~~@injenius.com>~~		From: ted
	Subject: RE: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: RE: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 27, 2018 at 8:24:07 AM GMT+8		Date: November 27, 2018 at 8:24:07 AM GMT+8
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	From: Allison Walsh ~~<allisonkwalsh@gmail.com>~~		From: Allison Walsh
	Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 27, 2018 at 4:12:28 AM GMT+8		Date: November 27, 2018 at 4:12:28 AM GMT+8
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	From: Peter Dwyer ~~<peter.dwyer@icxtg.com>~~		From: Peter Dwyer
	Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 25, 2018 at 1:14:31 PM GMT+8		Date: November 25, 2018 at 1:14:31 PM GMT+8
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	From: "NN \| Disorient" ~~<natalie@disorient.info>~~		From: "NN \| Disorient"
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: November 13, 2018 at 4:57:33 AM GMT+8		Date: November 13, 2018 at 4:57:33 AM GMT+8
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	===Sofy===		===Sofy===
	From: Sofy Yuditskaya ~~<marysghost@gmail.com>~~		From: Sofy Yuditskaya
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: October 28, 2018 at 7:18:08 AM GMT+8		Date: October 28, 2018 at 7:18:08 AM GMT+8
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	===Ria===		===Ria===
	From: Ria Rajan ~~<ria.rajan@gmail.com>~~		From: Ria Rajan
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: October 23, 2018 at 7:30:54 PM GMT+8		Date: October 23, 2018 at 7:30:54 PM GMT+8
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	===Bacchus===		===Bacchus===
	From: Dave Marglin ~~<emailin@gmail.com>~~		From: Dave Marglin
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
	Date: October 29, 2018 at 7:33:04 AM GMT+8		Date: October 29, 2018 at 7:33:04 AM GMT+8
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	===Ocean===		===Ocean===
	From: Leslie ~~<oceanfiretribal@gmail.com>~~		From: Leslie
	Date: October 21, 2018 at 2:14:58 AM GMT+7		Date: October 21, 2018 at 2:14:58 AM GMT+7
	Subject: Fwd: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Fwd: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
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	===Freeman===		===Freeman===
	From: Freeman Murray ~~<freeman@jaaga.in>~~		From: Freeman Murray
	Subject: Re: Rornj		Subject: Re: Rornj
	Date: October 15, 2018 at 2:02:51 PM GMT+8		Date: October 15, 2018 at 2:02:51 PM GMT+8

The eye: /* Responses from Cell Leads */

2018-11-28T03:06:30Z

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	==Responses from Cell Leads==		==Responses from Cell Leads==

			===Amber===

			From: Amber Straub <shadas@gmail.com>
			Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
			Date: November 28, 2018 at 5:11:51 AM GMT+8

			1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?
			I don't.

			2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?
			We do need some trash cans / trash collecting situation / less generation of trash / composting / solution. It would be nice if someone was the lead on that.

			3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?
			Listen to Ocean. Use SignUp to let people sign up for mooping shifts throughout the week.

			-Amber

			===Jacob===

			From: Jacob Joaquin <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com>
			Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
			Date: November 28, 2018 at 1:57:12 AM GMT+8

			1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?

			For the work conducted for the HRC cell, there are two main points of failure: The HRC container and the installation of the Frontage LEDs.

			The entrance to the container was placed right up against the shade structure this year, and ended up utilizing a couple squares. Though some work did take place outside of the container on tables, the overwhelming majority did take place inside of the container.

			It is possible that some MOOP, such as small pieces of small wire, could have fallen outside of the container, though I personally did not see much of it during my sweeps around the container.

			A second issue that happened was that the locks failed on the container in the locked position, and required power tools to break open. This is did spill small metal shavings onto the ground. I did spend considerable time cleaning this up, but potentially some of it was lost under playa dust that I missed.

			And last, there’s a lot of possessions that belong to others in the HRC container. Most notably, it’s used as bike storage that is then placed right outside the container. This is another possible point of failure.

			As for the installation of LEDs for the frontage, the primary concern is drilling of wood, which creates splinters and saw dust. A bucket was used to catch the majority the saw dust, but not 100%.

			2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?

			Increasing the frequency of MOOP sweeps around the container.
			Increasing the frequency of sweeping inside the container.
			MOOPing during and right after installing LEDs.
			Installing canvas on the floor outside of the container.

			3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?

			It is my personal belief that Disorient took on too many big projects this year, which exhausted our human resources and greatly affected our ability to clean up after ourselves. We should consider the less-is-more strategy moving forward.

	===Tejawe===		===Tejawe===

The eye: /* Responses from Cell Leads */

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The eye: /* Responses from Cell Leads */

2018-11-27T01:13:03Z

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	==Responses from Cell Leads==		==Responses from Cell Leads==

			===Tejawe===

			From: <ted@injenius.com>
			Subject: RE: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
			Date: November 27, 2018 at 8:24:07 AM GMT+8

			My cell really doesn’t have much to do with MOOP, but I figured I’d throw some Frozen Minty Towel (FMT) thoughts in anyway…

			1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?

			The only thing we did differently this year related to moop is that we used towels that were more of a “keepsake” – larger, dyed orange, and printed with DISORIENT art. While we always encourage people who receive towels to keep them, there are usually some left around the frontage area. I don’t think I saw any discarded towels this year.

			2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?

			Not so much specific to FMT, but to any project involving shifts at frontage (e.g., Sparkly Water Bar) – we can make a frontage moop sweep part of the shift. As soon as the next shift arrives, do a moop sweep before leaving the area!

			3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?

			For projects - More ground cloths, cut wood in the containers.
			For camp as a whole – Perhaps we focus more on interactivity than on installations? Or in general, focus on projects that just don’t generate as much moop.

			===A-Train===

			From: Allison Walsh <allisonkwalsh@gmail.com>
			Subject: Re: (Last chance) D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
			Date: November 27, 2018 at 4:12:28 AM GMT+8

			So I didn’t have a cell so am not sure if I am a cell lead? But as the person who was responsible for Duke’s and the surrounding area, i am fairly certain my footprint was in excellent condition. I took photos of my area before i left if that would be helpful? Ocean had already inspected and said it looked great so I was feeling confident. I had shop vac’d the pile of rust that had spilled onto the playa from the double doored disorient container and expressed concern to Ocean that there might have been a bit more under the container that I couldn’t get to and was told not to worry about it. The previous year the containers were moved and lined up for pick up while I was still on playa. It might be helpful in the future to be able to moop the area where the containers were as things get trapped in the corners etc. After my area, I stayed and cleaned the Disorient coolers so they are nice for next year and helped load the kitchen container. I also made a couple of meals in my RV for the remaining disengage crew. I wasn’t aware of the wood splinters or could have shop vac’d those up too. Somebody must have known about that issue and left without saying a word to anybody which is the real disappointment. I am not sure what I could have done differently other than stay another day and see for myself what the issues were so it is clear to me that more bodies and more food were needed.

			I am solely accountable for my two containers and their contents. How does Disorient assign accountability to its containers? What about the garbage bin?

			I would suggest that people not leave the playa until their things have been properly loaded and If they cannot personally load their items then they arrange to have people stay to help them without pulling campers away from the disengage team. Same for build week. My entire team was essentially two people, me and greg. When he is asked to help elsewhere and then I am asked to help elsewhere, it becomes very clear that Disorient has not properly planned for their own needs and is in no position to offer me any real assistance in spite of their promises.

			One more day (or far more people) was obviously needed to remove our trace. This puts us at a late Thursday departure which is unacceptable.

			with just two 1/2 people my build takes a week and disengage takes 3-4 days (with almost no sleep). 10 people could get the whole thing done in less than a day on each end and then we would be available to help elsewhere?

			Why did no one see the splinters until it was too late? where did that breakdown in communication take place?

			The way of thinking about disengage needs to change. It’s a wonderful time on the playa. Everyone trying to get out of there as quickly as possible is not the right attitude and is not helping the cause.

			hope this helps.

	===Peter===		===Peter===

The eye at 05:47, 25 November 2018

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	Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.		Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.

	==Natalie==		===Natalie===

	From: "NN \| Disorient" <natalie@disorient.info>		From: "NN \| Disorient" <natalie@disorient.info>
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	==Sofy==		===Sofy===
	From: Sofy Yuditskaya <marysghost@gmail.com>		From: Sofy Yuditskaya <marysghost@gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
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	Secret work, multiple people keeping an eye on the situation, and massive organized work combined seems to have been a great system.		Secret work, multiple people keeping an eye on the situation, and massive organized work combined seems to have been a great system.

	==Ria==		===Ria===
	From: Ria Rajan <ria.rajan@gmail.com>		From: Ria Rajan <ria.rajan@gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
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	Looking forward to the constructive evolution of this thread.		Looking forward to the constructive evolution of this thread.

	==Bacchus==		===Bacchus===
	From: Dave Marglin <emailin@gmail.com>		From: Dave Marglin <emailin@gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)		Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
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	==Ocean==		===Ocean===
	From: Leslie <oceanfiretribal@gmail.com>		From: Leslie <oceanfiretribal@gmail.com>
	Date: October 21, 2018 at 2:14:58 AM GMT+7		Date: October 21, 2018 at 2:14:58 AM GMT+7
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	==Freeman==		===Freeman===
	From: Freeman Murray <freeman@jaaga.in>		From: Freeman Murray <freeman@jaaga.in>
	Subject: Re: Rornj		Subject: Re: Rornj

The eye: /* Email sent to all Cell Leads */

2018-11-25T05:46:23Z

Email sent to all Cell Leads

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	==Email sent to ~~all~~ Cell Leads==		==Email sent to 23 Cell Leads==

	On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye <the.eye@disorient.info> wrote:<BR>		On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye <the.eye@disorient.info> wrote:<BR>

The eye: /* Email sent to all Cell Leads */

2018-11-25T05:45:44Z

Email sent to all Cell Leads

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	==Email sent to all Cell Leads==		==Email sent to all Cell Leads==

	On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye <the.eye@disorient.info> wrote:		On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye <the.eye@disorient.info> wrote:<BR>

	D18 Cell Leads:		D18 Cell Leads:

The eye at 05:45, 25 November 2018

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	==Peter==		==Email sent to all Cell Leads==

			On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 PM The Eye <the.eye@disorient.info> wrote:
			D18 Cell Leads:

			The preliminary 2018 MOOP Map results were released, and the DPW Playa Restoration team assigned Disorient all yellow with several red hot spots (see attached). According to DPW, this means that Disorient required either “Moderate” (yellow) or “Difficult” (red) clean-up efforts in order for Burning Man restore our designated area to the Leave No Trace standards put in place by the Bureau of Land Management. This may impact Disorient’s standing with the Placement team and have other consequences, such as a reduction in the number of Directed Group Sale tickets we are allotted.

			We have an opportunity to ask for more precise information about what the Resto team found during its post-Burn inspection of Disorient. We also want to communicate with both the Disorient and greater Burning Man communities about these results. Before we take these steps, we would like feedback from all D18 Cell Leads on the following:

			1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?
			2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?
			3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?

			This is an internal thread intended to be constructive, so please keep this in mind when you respond.

			Thank you,

			Disorient

			==Responses from Cell Leads==

			===Peter===

	From: Peter Dwyer <peter.dwyer@icxtg.com>		From: Peter Dwyer <peter.dwyer@icxtg.com>

The eye: /* NN - 20181113 */

2018-11-25T05:43:19Z

NN - 20181113

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	Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.		Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.

	==~~NN - 20181113~~==		==Natalie==

			From: "NN \| Disorient" <natalie@disorient.info>
			Subject: Re: D18 Cell Leads feedback on MOOP Map (action required)
			Date: November 13, 2018 at 4:57:33 AM GMT+8

	The Eye,		The Eye,

The eye: /* Peter */

2018-11-25T05:41:41Z

Peter

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	Sincere apologies in not responding earlier.		Sincere apologies in not responding earlier.

	1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?		1. How do you think your cell contributed to this result?<BR>
	Perhaps thinking naively: I think we had a good handle on the MOOP coming from the eNT. We took care during the setup and packing up of the truck and lights. Did what we could with the Playtrium. I thought there was good camp support in cleanup of that area as well. Though, there was a table/surface that accumulated random stuff. Lesson: remove all surfaces!		Perhaps thinking naively: I think we had a good handle on the MOOP coming from the eNT. We took care during the setup and packing up of the truck and lights. Did what we could with the Playtrium. I thought there was good camp support in cleanup of that area as well. Though, there was a table/surface that accumulated random stuff. Lesson: remove all surfaces!

	2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?		2. What can your cell do differently to help Disorient return to green in the future?<BR>
	Remove surfaces! Take the trash out early and often? (Lessen the load of the camp’s trash container at the end of the event).		Remove surfaces! Take the trash out early and often? (Lessen the load of the camp’s trash container at the end of the event).

	3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?		3. Do you have constructive feedback for other cells about how they can help Disorient return to green?<BR>
	Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.		Here’s a half baked idea: Small team that handles the final sweep for MOOP. They get to go to Reno for a night or two and recharge and come back for a solid day to go over the camp? Details and logistics not thought through. But fresh hands and eyes might help.